Unfortunately I've missed the software classes, so I thought I'd come here to ask what your favorite weaving software is and why? How do you use it, and what benefits have you found? What issues have you discovered with them?

I was just goofing around this evening and decided I need to have weaving software. But which one? I know the Weavo members will have valuable insight on the matter.

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jemwork (not verified)

I was in the class & came away happy. I'm sure it will be offered again. Go to Judie's site to find more!

http://www.weavenotes.net/

I have WeaveIt V5 & found it was missing a key ability for me. It wont allow me to create profile drafts & plug in different weave structures. PixeLoom will & also has an interface I like, so I got that & am trying to pick that up. 

Lots to learn!

Joan

Claudia Segal (not verified)

I have a Mac and there are only a few choices for weaving software unless you use software to make your Mac think it's a PC. When PixeLoom was released for the Mac last summer, I bought it.  The author, Sue Farley, responds very quickly to questions, there is a demo version to try and it's more intuitive than some of the more advanced software.  Another great feature is the price, it's better than most.

So, my vote is for Pixeloom, for either PC or Mac.  I like it, I use it and it's been easy to learn.  I also took Judie's class and that was an enormous help.  Her website is full of great articles including how to choose weaving software.  Check it out HERE.

Claudia

lkautio (not verified)

Ultimately, the software that is best for you will be the one that has the features you need and thinks the most like you do.  You can do most of what the average weaver wants with most of the software but certain tasks may be easier on one than another.  Advanced weavers may have two or more programs and switch between to use the features they like. 

Each program was set up by or for a particular weaver and is somewhat customized to how this person thinks about weaving.  Most of them have free demos.  You can get to the demos through the link Joan gave to Judie's site.  Look at Judie's overview of features, find the ones that fit your needs and download the demos.  Play with them for a month and see which ones area easier for you to use and suit you best.  Make sure whatever you choose has wif and block substitution capabilities and enough shafts and treadles to suit even your fantasy weaving (my fantasy weaving has at least 64 shafts...).

All of that said, I use Fiberworks PCW (SilverPlus, because I also use it to run a 32 shaft Weavebird).  I have been using it for 16-17 years, for many years with a non-computerized 10 shaft loom.  This is the one that thinks the most like I do.  It has very good block substitution features, lots of shortcuts, is relatively easy to learn, and can take you from first steps in CAD to the most advanced levels. At this point I find I don't think about the program when using it - it just functions as a plug and play extension of my brain, the best type of computer tool.

I teach a four year class for intermediate to advanced weavers.  About 80% come in with Fiberworks, 10% with Proweave, and 10% with WeaveItPro (which will do block substitution).  A few people have had a second or third program not in this group but rarely used it. These are all good programs as are a number of others.  If you look in the Complex Weavers directory, you will also find a very high percentage (70+% last time I looked) using Fiberworks.

Almost all of the software people are personable, helpful, and knowlegdeable weavers who are constantly trying to improve their programs.  They listen well and give articulate answers.  Have fun!

Laurie Autio

tien (not verified)

I have Fiberworks PCW and just acquired Weavepoint a few months ago.  Both are great programs.  I picked up Weavepoint because it did a few things Fiberworks PCW wouldn't do, and because I'm updating my AVL to a Compudobby IV.  At the moment, you can only drive the CDIV using Weavepoint.

There are things that are easy to do in Weavepoint that are not easy to do in PCW, and vice versa.  If I had to pick just one of them, I'd stick with fiberworks, because it's good weaving software and considerably cheaper than Weavepoint, but it would be a hard call.  I do a lot of work with Photoshop and it is easier to cut and paste from Photoshop into the liftplan with Weavepoint.

I agree in general that playing around with the demo versions is the way to go, but when I bought my first weaving software (shortly after beginning to weave) I didn't know enough to know what I should be looking for.  So playing with trial versions didn't help me.  In the end I dove in and bought weaving software that a friend was using - that made it easier for her to help me up the learning curve.  Later I discovered that I needed a feature that software didn't have, and switched to Fiberworks.  But there was no way for me to know that in advance - sometimes you just have to dive in.

So if you don't know what you're looking for either, I'd suggest starting with Fiberworks - it works well for almost anything and as Laurie has said, it seems to be the most popular weaving software out there, so it will be easier to get help from other Fiberworks users.  Ingrid and Bob are also very friendly and great with customer support.

Tien

lkautio (not verified)

You asked about uses and benefits of computer drafting.  I bought my first drafting program (Fiberworks in a DOS version, with a dot matrix printer) because I was going to be teaching my first class in a more formal venue (New England Weavers Seminar) and wanted to be able to generate a lot of nice-looking drafts quickly.  At that point I didn't think of it as a learning tool, in fact, more the opposite.  I thought that people stopped learning drafting the instant they started using a computer to do it for them.  I visualized my fairly complex drafts (up to 10-16 shafts) more or less complete in my head, drew down a section by hand to be sure they worked and fine-tuned a bit, then wove them. 

Over the years the way I use a computer drafting program changed drastically.  Yes, I could use it to make nice drafts quickly, or check for problems, or keep better records.  Certainly it was possible to use it as "idiotware" (and a lot of people do), doing the thinking for me for filling in squares, doing block substitutions, or importing published drafts.  However, once you know what a black square means, it is not really important whether you fill it in with a pencil or a computer.  Once you know how a block substitution works in a given structure, the computer just speeds it up.  Computer drafting really helped me learn a lot more about design, how structures work and relate, and how to match structures to particular designs (and vv). 

Because it was fast, the time spent doing just one drawdown by hand (in pencil, let alone the ink one teacher required) could be spent doing 30 or more different versions.  I could push a design to the point where I didn't like it, then bring it back to where it worked for me.  If you never find the edges of your comfort zone, you have no idea where they are.  And if you don't keep testing them, you don't know when they move - or direct them to move.  You will have a hard time doing enough drafting by hand to reach this level.  There just aren't enough hours in the day.

By working in profile drafts, then looking at block substutions in several structures for the same profile, you will begin to get an idea of which structures will express different design ideas best.  As you work back and forth between the structures you can get a better idea of the nuances of each, their similarities and slight differences, and their strengths and weaknesses. Rather than being project driven, you may decide to be design driven.  That is, I do a design, then I pick the structure that best expresses that design to me, then I decide on a yarn and lastly a project that will showcase the design.

The drawback is, if you love the process you may end up spending more time designing than weaving.  I certainly do (about 500 drafts for every one I weave, maybe more). The compensation is that my designs are gradually finding a personal voice, one that expresses my aesthetic sense, and that I am learning to use weaving in a more intuitive, fluid, and creative way while expanding my limitations.

There is a Complex Weavers Study Group for computer design, the CAD group.  It is an amazing group to participate in, with people doing some very exciting original work.  Another CW study group, CTools, discusses and troubleshoots various computer tools weavers use, including drafting software.  They are worth looking at.  If you are a member of CW and might be interested in the CAD group, take out the notebooks from the CW library before joining to see what people are doing. CW isn't just for people with 16 shafts and computerized looms.  It is for anyone who wants to challenge themself and share the journey. 

Laurie Autio (disclaimer, I am a past pres. of CW)

 

sally_libby (not verified)

I have PCW the Bronze 4.2.  I am a very beginner weaver and I find that it meet my needs.  Sally

padmavyuha (not verified)

Fiberworks PCW is about to become available for the mac, hooray! They're going to release a trial version that won't print or save for people to beta-test - when the final version comes out, the price(s) will be similar to the winxx version. Watch this space:

http://www.fiberworks-pcw.com/macpreview.html

dteaj (not verified)

I have Fiberworks and use it quite a bit. I've never used any other weaving software. There is a lot it can do in terms of drafting.

Given that, I came to it knowing Photoshop and its amazing ease of use and have been a little frustrated by how difficult it is to import color information, maintain my own pallettes, copy and paste specific pieces of information, etc. Also Fiberworks is somewhat buggy. In the beginning, as a former software engineer, I documented the bugs I ran into and sent them off to the Fiberworks folks. They seemed less than thrilled with the information, giving no indication when or if they would be fixed. In fairness, they did provide a couple of  workarounds for the problems, awkward as they are.

Debbie

Eva (not verified)

I've been using Fiberworks PCW for a few years and chose it because a friend highly recommended it.  I first tried WinWeave and WeaveDesign (both "free") and they were a great way to get acquainted with weaving software.  At that time my only other experience in using a computer to help me design was with Microsoft Excel that I used to design profile drafts.

Since I weave on a 16h treadle loom I thought the Bronze version of PCW would be good enough.  It was for a while but as soon as I got comfortable with using it I upgraded to the Silver because features like block substitution and network drafting sounded really enticing.  I have to say I love it.  It's true, there have been a few little bugs in the program (nothing that I couldn't live with) and when I reported them Ingrid was really helpful and as they are fixed there are upgrades that are free for download.

I'm all for using weaving software but I'm so glad that I learned about weave structure (a semester of Desiree Koslin's "Weave Construction and Analysis" class in the early 80's) before learning to use a weaving program.  It's so much more satisfying when you understand it. 

Eva

 

 

 

lkautio (not verified)

It is probably not fair to expect the same bells and whistles from small weaving software companies who sell hundreds to at most a few thousand copies a year as you would get from a large company selling millions of copies a year (like Adobe).  Most of the owners work a second job or are retired from other careers.  Also, there seems to be an effort to keep the programs and files small so they will run on older or smaller equipment. 

Laurie Autio

dteaj (not verified)

I understand the differences in scale of a small software company out of a house vs a corporation. What I do expect is to have bugs taken seriously and be addressed.

Debbie

handspunhandwoven (not verified)

Thank you all for the informative answers to my questions and the continuing discussion. I'm exploring WinWeave to begin with (is that like a gateway drug?), but will definitely keep the greater fuctionality of the other programs in mind.

It seems a little bit of overkill to put my little waffle weave towel project into the program, but it's handy to learn on. And fun to play with too. Not having to do drawdowns by hand is soooo worth it. While I'm an intermediate weaver who's been at it for awhile, I've settled into just a few drafts (a lot of plainweave) to use with my handspun yarns. I'm all about letting the yarn be the star (and do the work) ;).

I have, however, put at least 2 more complicated projects on the New Year's Resolution list, and I'm hoping this new toy will inspire me to do more. I also think it will help me keep more and better information on my projects. Drafts & drawdowns in pretty colors. Not so critical for plainweave scarves and shawls which I can eyeball, but it's always handy to look up past info. I have 3 volumes of The Wool Book, and multiple dyeing sample books - I should definitely have a Weaving Book.

Sara von Tresckow

I too am an IT person and have used Fiberworks since its earliest DOS days. I've never found it buggy - perhaps you are looking for functionality that it does not contain.

It is a weaving program - it does excellent drafting, makes block substitutions, puts in colors, does thick and thin threads, drives computer assisted looms - and was never meant to be Photoshop.

I have always liked and used Fiberworks when robust reliability in weave drafting was needed.

The Photoshop features you refer to are those needed for advanced simulation of fabrics. For that you need to go to something like Weavepoint or Pointcarre. While very expensive, I'm finding Pointcarre better than Photoshop for pallettes and simulation and editing pixel graphics for weave designs. Their system for color schemes, repeats, etc. is better honed to textile projects than Photoshop which is geared toward photographs. The Pantone colors included and the A,B,
C,D color design feature that allows substitutions for those letters in multiple combinations for each file is not matched anywhere else. I can do a stripe sequence in 5 or 6 variations and view them side by side on the screen. I can scan in my textured yarns and define them so that the simulation shows the textured effect in the fabric.

Weavepoint 7 has improved the simulation greatly and allows thread definition. The fabric view is shaded to look more like real fabric than just a graphed weaving draft.

jemwork (not verified)

One thing to note about the weaving programs we've talked about here - they've been designed by weavers who understand weaving. That's why Ingrid can listen to a "bug" & understand what is needed for the weaver. They use the programs too!

All the programs work fine - they all do one or more things the others don't necessarily do or they do something better. It is important for a weaver to have a good understanding of weaving and drafting before jumping in - then there is a better understanding of what's happening & how to correct errors!

dteaj (not verified)

Since others have not run into bugs in Fiberworks, and are assuming that it must be misuse of the product, I would like to write up 3 of the most common bugs I run into and let others decide for themselves. Editing color values – It is possible to edit the text value of colors in Fiberworks. Deleting the value completely, however, produces an error message that the value is out of range. Typing in the value you want concatenated onto the value already there, (so you can then delete the original value without running into an error) also gives an out of range error, since the current value exceeds the maximum value. All this occurs whether autoapply is on or not. The only way to enter a color number is to add one number character¸ delete one of the original character numbers and repeat until you have the number desired. Using the color sliders – Occasionally when using the color value up and down buttons, the values will change, but the actual color shown and indicated by the slider has not changed. Warp repeat in the center of a design inserts and moves the rest of the design to the left. This is fine and how it is supposed to work. Weft repeat in the center of a design overwrites the rest of the design. This is an acknowledged bug, sent in several years ago already, which generated quick response, a workaround, and no indication that it would ever be fixed. I am sorry to say all this. I believe in support for suppliers and producers of such specialized products. I also believe they should, in turn, stand behind their products. Debbie

Sara von Tresckow

Kind of nit picky - especially with the color issues. The program never purported to be a fabric simulator. Considering the pricing on programs that have more sophisticated color systems, I'd say that you are out of line.

The repeat thing is also not something that is used every day and has a predictable outcome.

Industrial strength software with features that you are attempting to access costs in the thousands not the low hundreds.

BlueCancer (not verified)

Hi everyone,

It's been over two years since this thread has had anything added to it.  I am new to the software aspect of weaving.  I would like to know what is currently the best and how to learn to use the software.  I am playing around with Weave Design right now.  I would like it to be numeric like PixeLoom for the threading and treadling.   Since it doesn't I don't know if I am entering the treadling and tie up correctly or upside down.  I don't know how to see the color on PixeLoom like I can on Weave Design though.  WIF 'n Proof demo is hard to try on my Nook.  I can't get the Weave Maker 8.6.0 to open for the demo.  I know I could use the K-G Chart for knitting like Jason Collingwood does but it doesn't look simple enough to use for me and my drafting experience.  I'm used to writing it all out on paper.  

Please let me know the best way to learn how to use these CAD softwares.

Jessica

laurafry

I use Fiberworks. I found it quite intuitive to learn. I use iWeaveit on my iPad. Cheers Laura

Bonnie Inouye (not verified)

Fiberworks now has a Mac version as well as one for Windows. It has great print options, a library for block substitutions and user-defined too. Colors can be added with several shortcuts and with numbers for longer sequences, and any given color may be modified in hue or value while the draft is on the screen with colors changing.

I use both Fiberworks and WeavePoint (only for Windows). Each has strengths. Both are actively supported and still being upgraded.

Bonnie Inouye

sally orgren

among most of my guildmates and the instructors I have taken, although it wasn't available for MAC's until recently. I just downloaded the demo version, because I am reviewing Marg Coe's new book "4,8, Weave..." for Complex Weavers. (DO download the trial version and see what you think.) 

I own Weavemaker because it was designed for MAC's, and I don't have a computer controlled loom at this time. I DO use my software for nearly every project, so it is really helpful to have something to make the process quick and easy. (Not that I don't also use colored pencils and other "hardware" to design in tandem with the computer.)

Sara von Tresckow

I use several programs for various reasons, but for just plain intuitive weave design, Fiberworks is still number one.

The learning curve is very short - if you already know how to weave. There are some very nice advanced features for later, but in the beginning, there is nothing in the way of just using your mouse and keyboard to mock up what you want to make.

cottageweaver (not verified)

Has anyone ever tried Patternland from Maple Hill Software? It looks like it hasn't been updated in awhile, but the color simulation is beautiful. I used to use Fiberworks back in its early days. I switched to WeaveIt Pro several years ago, and it meets my needs. I have VävDesign from Sweden, which I like because of the Scandinavian presentation format. This one may not be supported or updated anymore. I weave on a 12-shaft Glimakra Standard, and an 8-shaft Ideal with combination drawloom, so I have no need for computerized loom capabilities. Like any other software purchase: Check out the manufacturer's website, download sample software if available, check out feedback from users, but also think about what your weaving needs are. One person might have a need for excellent color design with mostly plain weave, someone else might be using the software with an AVL computerized loom. Different requirements might mean a different choice in software.

sally orgren

Know what OS you are/will be using, and check out the last time the software was updated. What is the policy if an update happens in the next year or more?

Bonnie Inouye (not verified)

WeavePoint lets you arrange the draft in different ways and also includes Swedish and Norwegian text. It now has an excellent double weave view and you can enter thread thickness to see a more accurate fabric view.The author lives in Oslo.

I use the same programs for creating new drafts for any kind of loom. Most weavers with software use it to learn about drafts and create new drafts. It is also a wonderful teaching tool! I am glad to have great tools like "interleave paste" and parallel sequences, warp-faced and weft-faced views, etc. I weave on AVL computer-assisted looms, so I compare the screen view during loom-control when recommending software for this use.

Bonnie Inouye

JPMorabito

I think out of all the weaving software available, WeaveMaker and WeavePoint are by far the most sophisticated (and actually, user friendly). These are the programs used at universities and professional design studios throughout the states. I actually find that these more powerful programs behave the most like hand written point paper, and are pretty intuitive. 

I use WeaveMaker myself. In addition to being a straight forward point paper format, it enables you to design quickly. To move back and forth between treadle and dobby mode, split and merge harnesses, etc. You can create weave simulations, three dimensional interlacement drawings, and can adjust your draw down to correctly reflect the aspect ratio (ie, to reflect the epi and ppi). The program has float check histograms, calculates heddles per harness, has sophisticated color tools and options for importing color libraries (although you really should use actual yarns or color swatches for color work - the computer screen is rarely accurate for color). You can also import and export files for Photoshop. WeaveMaker can export your weave as a tiff file, which is a more universal format than wiff. That means you can work with outside sources, move files into different types of software, and even interface with jacquard looms. This versatility is REALLY important.

I don't have a huge amount of experience with WeavePoint, but I know the two programs are comparable. Basically, WeavePoint is a PC program and WeaveMaker is a Mac program (runs on both but is more efficient for Mac). I like WeaveMake better, but that's probably just what I'm used to. With the professional programs, it's more about finding the one that suits your needs and is compatable with your computer. You'll want to run the softwares on an actual computer and not an ipad or something of the like. 

sally orgren

I may be running an older verison (8.5.6) but I can't figure out how to represent different fiber sizes within one element, say the warp. (Depict a very thick 8/8 warp alternating with a thin 16/2). I believe Fiberworks allows you to do this.

I was also hoping that these programs would have a PMS (Pantone Matching System) based palette as an option. No dice. Seems crazy. WYSIWYG is always a problem with color on the monitor vs yarns. But I CAN lay a yarn on a PMS chip, and if I can enter that PMS # into the computer, I don't really care what the RGB color displays as. I will know the color of the yarn. 

I DO really like the (wool) fabric simulation option on WeaveMaker. Does Fiberworks have something similar? I find that the best representation of the finished fabric has little to do with actual epi & ppi, or fiber used. It seems to work best in the 18-24 range. (For instance, if I am actually weaving at 30 epi, I still enter 18 into the dialog box to get a better idea of how the finished fabric will look.) I think it basically "fuzzes" the color drawdown as if woven in wool, but I still find it very helpful for project planning.

JPMorabito

No, it doesn't support a PMS palette option. Unfortunately, the only software I know of that do this are industrial programs like NedGrahpics and PointCarre. Those are great programs, but last time I checked they were in the ballpark of $30k - a bit out of reach for the average handweaver ;) You could try naming the color swatches to correspond with your yarns to help with planning. I'm still wary of using the computer to design for color. It's great for pattern layouts, etc - just so off when it comes to color. In my experience the best way to do color work is to literally twist the yarns together to see how they will interact. And there are always color blankets... I'm going to get off my color soap box now ;)

In WeaveMaker, I don't believe you can represent different yarn sizes in the same thread system. Could be worng, so if somebody knows how to do that please let me know. I'd be really impressed if Fiberworks can do that - I thought that was another industrial program thing. 

Sara von Tresckow

The closest I know of to the industrial strength programs is Weavepoint. Bjorn keeps adding features that pull it in the direction of Pointcarre. The simulation in Weavepoint, if you take the time to define your yarn and sett, is quite nice. Weavepoint7 contains many new improved features. Weavepoint also has a wonderful companion program that handles double harness weaving - showing background and pattern - thread by thread - lampas, damask, beiderwand and more - a unique piece of software.

The Pantone color matching - found in Pointcarre is quite nice as are other features. There is pricing for "freelancers" that is considerably less than for a business, but you are still in the 5K+ range. And yes, I own the dobby module, the multi-layer cloth module and the scaling tool. It is fantastic. It is the only graphing software (pattern generation) that prints the grid over the image without taking up space. I can design multiple colorways in the same structure, display them side by side, and pick which one works best. I can take a photo of a table with tablecloth, define the size of that table, define my sett - and place my fabric on the table to see if the pattern scale is correct - or too large, or too small. I can scan boucle yarn and have the fabric simulation reflect that scanned image in the texture.

There is also quite a learning curve (3 days training in the NYC office) and an annual support contract that is worth more than a standard weaving program. This is certainly not something for a new weaver with a Baby Wolf - which puts us back with Fiberworks as an excellent program for someone just beginning to deal with weaving software.

Sophisticated software is expensive - the $200 range of most weaving software for hobby weavers is really on the low side, though most weavers do not see it that way. Arah Weave starts around $1500, but for large numbers of warp ends, you are at the 5K rather quickly.

Basically, the algorithm for charting a drawdown for a weave draft is not all that complicated. It is when you start adding simulation features that weaving software becomes expensive.

Gone

I was fortunate to find Pixieloom. Simple to understand for the challenged like me. It's free to try, but the print and save functions are disabled. You can get around this by doing a screen shot and printing from a graphic viewer if you really need to.

http://www.pixeloom.com/

 

ReedGuy

In Weavepoint, does it allow you to rearrange the view so the shafts are below and the tie-up at lower right? I'm just experimenting with the demo here, but assume everything is the same except save and print.

Thanks. :)

Sara von Tresckow

In Weavepoint, go to Options/Style. Check the box for threading at the bottom. This also puts the tieup in the lower right hand corner.

You can change the display mode in other ways from this screen as well. Also, the Layout tab controls whether you read the draft from right to left, top to bottom, etc.

ReedGuy

Wonderful, thank you kindly for the help. :)

Catweaver

This is an old thread - but I couldn't find anything closer to what I wanted to know. Actually, I hardly even know how to search for what I wanted to know!

Is there a software package where you can start by drawing in the drawdown and then work out the threading, tie-up and treadling from that?

I use iWeaveIt and you can't do that with it (although I like it for all the other things I want to do). I've just downloaded the free demo for Fiberworks but I can't yet see an option for this. 

Any ideas? I use a Mac. Thanks, everyone!

Sara von Tresckow

PCW uses the Sketchpad feature to allow the weaver to draw the interlacement and then derive threading and tieup.

 

Catweaver

Thanks, Sara. Although I just went to check out the Sketchpad and it says that it is only under development for Macs. Perhaps that facility will be coming soon? The manual says that, unlike Windows where the Sketchpad is integrated, on a Mac the interlacement will need to be exported to the Mac clipboard. At the moment, I can't find any way of doing that but I've only downloaded the free demo at this stage so I don't know if more is available once you've paid and registered.

Sara von Tresckow

Guess I'd heard that somewhere. I've only used Windows based weaving software - Weavepoint also has a feature where you can enter on the design grid and it will deduce the setup for you.

alene

I want to be able to go from a drawdown to threading and treadling in fiber works ( PCW) as well. I have the licensed version of Fiberworks.I will be researching how to do this. My darling husband is an Apple engineer and we are an apple family. I will post again when I have a procedure to make this work on Mac computers.

Bonnie Inouye (not verified)

I saw Bob Keates at the Complex Weavers Seminars this past June. He is working on a version of sketchpad for the Mac Fiberworks, and said it would probably be an optional add-on feature. Sketchpad is useful for much more than just the fabric analysis tool you mention.

Bonnie Inouye

Catweaver

That sounds good: the Apple cavalry are on their way!

Sanchavel

I was just wondering if there are any further updates to this thread or programs that are not mentioned.  I see there have not been any comments for a few years but this is a subject that doesn't grow old, especially for neewbies.  I am finding it very confusing to know which program to choose and as they aren't cheap don't want to 'blow' my money.  Appreciate all your help

sandra.eberhar…

The continuing constant is that they're all slightly different, and all offer free trial versions.  The best course is to download several free trial apps and see what you like.

Weaveinandout

My sister who introduced me to weaving uses HandWeaving and she loves it. I am just getting into it, but it seems to be pretty good and basic so far. 

banister.sue@g…

 I need information about apple compatable programs.

 

Thanks

Weaveinandout

If you do not want to install a Windows virtual machine on your Mac, then Fiberworks is the best software to use.